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Hey, everybody. You are going to love this one today, you know, for a change. And let me tell you why.

My guest is Edward Isaac DeVier. He covers politics for the Atlantic Monthly. He's written a book

Battle for the Soul inside the Democratic campaigns to defeat Trump. And it chronicles all the different

Democratic candidates' campaigns in their fight for the nomination in 2020, and then, of course, follows

the Trump-Biden race as well all the way past the election and that debacle at the insurrection

at the Capitol, et cetera. This one is candy.

If you are at all a political junkie,

you are just going to love this.

A lot of inside dope,

a lot of great stories.

It's like,

this is like eating your favorite candy

for 45 minutes, 50 minutes, except every bite is like the first bite of it.

It's just you're going to, I'm telling you, you are going to love, love, love this one.

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