713: Trevor Haugen meets with Elder Don R. Clarke and Matthew J. Grow Pt. 3
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2017
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
In this four-part episode, Trevor Haugen shares and analyzes his experience meeting with LDS General Authority Don R. Clarkeand LDS church historian Dr. Matthew J. Grow as they attempt to address his mounting concerns with deeply troubling Mormon history and doctrine.
Part 1: Trevor discusses his life as an orthodox Mormon believer, including his mission service and temple marriages.
Parts 2, 3 & 4: Trevor and Dr. John Dehlin discusses the meeting, and particularly analyze the apologetics offered by Elder Clarke and Dr. Matthew Grow.
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| 0:51.3 | Let's go and read Book of Mormon. Let's do Book of Mormon and listeners. |
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| 0:57.4 | Mormon. Take it away Trevor. The first thing that I brought up was that I could |
| 1:01.4 | start to see how a story could have been concocted by Joseph Smith that |
| 1:05.6 | wasn't a hundred percent original. This idea of Native Americans originally. |
| 1:10.1 | Do you want to read your Book of Mormon point in the email? I do want to read it |
| 1:14.5 | but there was one thing that we mentioned that wasn't in here that I |
| 1:17.9 | wanted to get in person. It was this whole thing on view of the Hebrews. Do you |
| 1:21.8 | remember that? Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and read what you wrote in the email and then |
| 1:25.9 | talk about that. Okay, okay. I just said similar to the Book of Abraham. There |
| 1:29.9 | are 1769 King James Version Edition errors in the Book of Mormon. Errors unique to |
| 1:35.1 | the Bible that Joseph Smith owned word for word. How could these have made it into |
| 1:39.4 | an ancient record? That was my first point. And then you went on to that was that |
| 1:45.4 | was the Book of Mormon part? This was this is just kind of one little yeah point |
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