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The Terri Cole Show

711 Upending Silence, Stigma, and Shame with Dr. Jessica Zucker

The Terri Cole Show

Terri Cole

Psychotherapist, Sustainablechange, Guidance, Mental Health, Simplestrategies, Society & Culture, Powerofintention, Simplestrategiestoachievepersonalfreedom, Hellofreedom, Easternmindfulnesspractices, Relationships, Health & Fitness, Practicalpsychology, Terricole

51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

I'm so excited to have Dr. Jessica Zucker, author of I HAD A MISCARRIAGE: A Memoir, a Movement, on the show to talk about her new book, NORMALIZE IT: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives

We talked about "the cult of shame" that women are indoctrinated into, from getting your period, to having a miscarriage, to going into perimenopause or menopause: all the things we're not 'supposed' to talk about as women!

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did and are inspired to think about what shame you're holding and how you might acknowledge and honor it. 

Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/711

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole Show.

0:05.0

I am super excited to introduce you to my new pal, Dr. Jessica Zucker.

0:10.5

She's a Los Angeles-based psychologist specializing in reproductive health

0:14.4

and the author of the award-winning book, I Had a Miscarriage, A Memoir, a Movement.

0:20.0

Jessica's the creator of the number one viral hashtag, I Had a Miscarriage, a Memoir, a Movement. Jessica's the creator of the number one viral hashtag, I Had a Miscarge campaign.

0:24.9

Her writing has appeared in the New York Times, The Washington Post, New York Magazine, Vogue, Harvard Business Review, among many other places.

0:32.1

She's been featured on NPR, the Today Show, and Good Morning America, and earned advanced degrees from New York University and Harvard University.

0:40.1

So she is a smart of pants.

0:42.2

But her newest book is what we were talking about.

0:44.0

We talked about her first book as well.

0:45.7

But her newest book is really compelling.

0:47.6

It's called Normalize It, Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame that Shape women's lives, which is really something.

0:56.8

It just came out two days ago, and we just talked all about all of the things that we are

1:02.7

indoctrinated.

1:04.3

It's like a cult of shame that women are sort of indoctrinated into, from getting your period

1:10.0

to having a miscarriage, to going into

1:13.8

perimenopause or menopause, so many things. And so I really hope that you enjoy this

1:19.3

illuminating conversation with Dr. Jessica Zucker as much as I enjoyed talking to her.

1:40.3

This is the Terry Cole show, and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole.

1:49.4

For over two decades, I've been a licensed psychotherapist, love and boundaries expert, and I'm also the founder of the Real Love Revolution and Boundary Boot Camp.

2:02.0

On this show, I'll bring you simple strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations from my time on the front lines in the fascinating world of entertainment,

2:06.3

empowerment, and mental health. Now let's get going with today's episode.

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