71: 7. Schleicher's Dismissal and Hindenburg's Manipulation. Timothy Ryback discusses how on January 28, 1933, Chancellor Schleicher requested six months of martial law from Hindenburg to allow the politically deteriorating Nazi party to stabilize and restore
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🗓️ 10 November 2025
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1933 VON PAPPEN
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchel. It is January 28, 1933, the new year. Berlin. There's a party tonight, a press party, a celebration of elitism. At the same time, there is intrigue on Wilhelm Strasser because Strasser is being |
| 0:24.7 | romanced by Schleiker and Hindenberg. Hitler is concerned that he's being iced out or elbowed out, |
| 0:32.7 | but none of that is true because Schleiker has a plan that is going to solve everybody's difficulty and elbow them out of the way. |
| 0:41.2 | Schleiker, remember, he's Minister of Defense, or at least he believes he is, and he goes to Hindenburg to confront Hindenberg with his choices. |
| 0:50.3 | Tim, this is the best scene that I never knew existed. |
| 1:06.9 | All I ever had all those years of reading about January 33 is for reasons that were not explained to Hindenburg offered the chancellorship to Hitler, and that was the end of democracy. |
| 1:08.9 | That was the end of peace in Europe. |
| 1:15.1 | The meeting between Schleiker and Hindenberg is far more profound to explain what's going on. |
| 1:17.0 | What does Schleiker won at this point? |
| 1:19.4 | What does he tell Hindenberg his options are? |
| 1:33.7 | What Schleich had manipulated the situation first brought brought Poppin into power as his puppet. |
| 1:49.5 | Then when he saw the op, this was in the spring of 32, when he saw the opportunity to remove Poppin and replace poppin with himself he did this in December of 32 so suddenly schleichael finds himself both as minister of defense and as chancellor |
| 1:58.3 | so head of the military and head of the government, |
| 2:01.7 | you know, |
| 2:02.2 | simply after the president, |
| 2:05.7 | the most powerful man in the country |
| 2:08.8 | with all the key levers of power. |
| 2:13.1 | But what Hindenburg still wants |
| 2:16.0 | is a functioning Reichstag. |
| 2:19.4 | He wants a this, this is a constitutional democracy, constitutional republic. |
| 2:24.6 | He simply wants the country to follow the rules. |
| 2:29.4 | And so he needs to get a Reichstag put together what Poppin, |
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