703: Keto Works… But Not the Way You Think | Dr. Andrew Koutnik
The Jesse Chappus Show
Jesse Chappus
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🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 97 minutes
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Dr. Andrew Koutnik is an award-winning scientist committed to producing and translating cutting-edge research into solutions for health.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on today's show. |
| 0:01.6 | A very low carbohydrate and very high fat diet known as the keto junk diet has been known to have powerful metabolic changes. |
| 0:09.6 | When people utilize these high carbohydrate diets since the 1970s as the one optimal form of diet, |
| 0:14.4 | it is foregoing the knowledge for over 200 years that lower carbohydrate strategies are actually |
| 0:19.7 | one of the most effective ways to reverse |
| 0:21.7 | obesity and diabetes and other major conditions that now plague the vast majority of adults in |
| 0:26.2 | the United States of America. For that first meal, when you first consume it and it's lower |
| 0:29.2 | in carbohydrates, instantly glucose is going to drop. Once the body senses less glucose in the |
| 0:33.6 | blood, it's going to detect that in the pancreas, and the pancreas is now going to lower |
| 0:37.3 | its insulin secretion. Insulin is a fat storage hormone, and it actually blocks fat from being broken down to be utilized and metabolized for fuel. So when insulin lowers, it removes this blockade on fat breakdown and allows for your own body fat to now be broken down, take into the liver, go through fatty acid oxidation, and also goes to other tissues |
| 0:54.6 | to be starting to utilize as a more predominant form of fuel, and the liver will take that fat |
| 0:59.0 | and convert some of it to ketone bodies. I think there's a misnomer in the low carbohydrate |
| 1:03.2 | ketogenic community that says, oh, fat won't spike insulin and calories don't matter. Fat does |
| 1:07.8 | matter, and it does contribute to calories and calories are 100% important. |
| 1:11.6 | But if you kept calories identical in two different diets and you just start pouring fat on top |
| 1:15.3 | of one of the diets, you will gain weight, probably fat. |
| 1:20.5 | Andrew, as a metabolic health scientist, somebody who has been on a keto diet for over 10 years, |
| 1:26.3 | you're somebody that can go deep on the nuances |
| 1:28.7 | of keto, and that's exactly what we're going to do today. Are you with me? I'm ready, Jesse. |
| 1:33.9 | Appreciate it, ma'am. All right, let's take it from the top. For people who aren't so familiar, |
| 1:39.2 | what is the ketogenic diet, and what is the history there? So the ketogenic diet has been around for around 200 years, and this is a diet where most |
| 1:49.0 | well known for its, to lower carbohydrates in the diet, lowering carbohydrates in the diet |
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