702: You're Wearing the Wrong Shoes — They're Making Your Feet Weaker | Dr. Courtney Conley
The Jesse Chappus Show
Jesse Chappus
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🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 120 minutes
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Dr. Courtney Conley is a foot and gait specialist helping people eliminate pain, strengthen their feet, and restore natural movement.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on today's show. |
| 0:02.0 | The reason I got into this work was because of all the foot pain that I've had. And I'm working real hard, Jesse. I'm working real hard to get this information out there because it changes people's lives. If you go look at all the popular footwear now, it's like a pillow party. It's maximal cushion and all this stuff. You watch people walk in these and you're like, they're going to fall over. Nobody gets a free lunch. If you don't use it, you're going to lose it. We are really creating feet that are becoming weaker. And it's why we're seeing a high rate of foot pain, a high rate of foot diagnoses. You got to earn your right to wear minimal footwear. You wouldn't squat 100 pounds this week and squat 200 pounds next week. So we have to think about that |
| 0:39.2 | when we're training our feet. When I look at my patient-based, one of the questions I ask them is, |
| 0:44.0 | what is their step count? If it sits below 3,000 steps per day, on average, I can almost guarantee |
| 0:49.9 | you, we will have the discussion that they suffer from some type of depression, anxiety. It's almost like those things go hand in hand. If you're in a bad mood, go for a walk. And if you're still in a bad mood, go for a longer walk. I was like, I'm going to move to Colorado and I'm just going to start walking up these mountains. And I'm just going to keep going till I feel better. And that was 15 years ago. And it literally, I think, saved my life. |
| 1:19.2 | Courtney, as someone who is a huge fan of walking, let's start out connecting this practice to health and longevity. When I think of walking, you know, I think people forget that it is |
| 1:26.7 | something that we were literally born to do. |
| 1:29.9 | It's a physiological necessity. |
| 1:32.8 | And that's how I really want people to start thinking about walking again, almost as an |
| 1:37.8 | equivalent to breathing and sleeping, that it's not really this optional form of exercise, that it's this physical, this physiological |
| 1:47.0 | necessity that's required for longevity. When we think about breathing optimally, |
| 1:54.6 | and sleeping optimally, there's a reason for that because it creates this efficiency for us. |
| 2:00.7 | And that is how I want walking to |
| 2:03.5 | really start to be considered as something that we have been born to do that we are not taking |
| 2:09.9 | advantage of. It is the most easily accessible underutilized form of activity that a lot of us |
| 2:16.5 | are not doing. All right. So you're making it |
| 2:18.6 | clear. It's important. We all need to be doing it. What's the right dose? If you were to Google how |
| 2:24.4 | many steps a day I should be walking, you'd probably see 10,000 steps. And we like to call that a marketing |
| 2:32.6 | a marketing hangover from the 1960s. |
| 2:35.7 | That 10,000 step marker was never based on any scientific research. |
| 2:40.9 | It was actually from a Japanese marketing company, and they had developed a pedometer called |
| 2:46.6 | the Mampo K, which basically means 10,000 step meter. |
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