This black guy came up to me who's the same edge as me and he was like, yeah, I'm called Dwayne.

And I was like, hey Dwayne, hey Dane.

And he was like, so I've seen your book about, and I want to read it, but I'm a boy.

And it feels weird because you're a girl.

Hello and welcome to the Feminist Don't Wear Pink podcast based on the the book Feminist Don't Wear Pink and Other Lies, a collection of essays by 52 women on what feminism means to them.

I'm your host, Scarlett Curtis. I'm a writer, activist, proud feminist and curator of our book and host of this podcast.

This episode was recorded live in Nottingham with June Sarpong and Candice Carty Williams.

June Sarpong, MBE, is a TV presenter, world-leading diversity expert and award-winning author

of Diversify and the Power of

Women. She is a pillar of British media culture, the co-founder of the WIE network, and

presenter of Sky News' current affairs discussion show The Pledge. She began her career as a DJ and

has gone on to grace practically every major British TV and radio station.

Throughout her career, she has used her platform to create opportunities for women of colour and advocate tirelessly for causes she believes in.

She is one of my heroes and it was a joy to interview her.

Candice Carty Williams, our other guest, is an author, book marketer

and sometime journalist based in South London. Candice worked in the media before moving

into publishing at age 23. In 2016, Candice created and launched the Guardian and Ford

the State BAME short story prize before moving to vintage books.

Her debut novel, Queenie, was the reason I was desperate to interview her. It had stormed

the bestseller list, been called a black political Bridget Jones, and in my opinion, it is one

of the most important, hilarious, heartbreaking, honest, beautiful, stunning

portrayals of womanhood, sex, race, PTSD and, spoiler alert, it is the best case ever for why everyone

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