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Bad People

69. Pharma Bro 1: Is greed inherently bad?

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In September 2015, Martin Shkreli’s name made headlines. He quickly became ‘the most hated man in America’ after he raised the price of the life-saving drug, Daraprim, by more than 4,000% - almost overnight. He was vilified by the press and the public alike and was often referred to as ‘pharma bro’, a representation of everything that was seemingly wrong with Big Pharma. Was Martin Shkreli unfairly singled out? How was any of it legal? And is ruthlessness in business justified? This is part one of two. On this episode of Bad People Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss greed and whether it’s inherently bad. This episode includes audio from the 2021 documentary ‘Pharma Bro’ by Blumhouse Productions, directed by Brent Hodge. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Anna Lacey #BadPeople_BBC Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to introduce myself.

0:03.7

My name's Stevie Middleton and I'm a BBC Commissioner for a Load of Sport Podcasts.

0:08.4

I'm lucky to do that at the BBC because I get to work with a leading journalist, experienced

0:12.2

pundits and the biggest sport stars.

0:14.3

Together we bring you untold stories and fascinating insights straight from the players'

0:18.5

mouths.

0:19.5

But the best thing about doing this at the BBC is our unique access to the sport in world.

0:25.0

What that means is that we can bring you podcasts that create a real connection to

0:28.8

dedicated sports fans across the UK.

0:31.2

So if you like this podcast, head over to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more.

0:36.9

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:40.9

Three, two, one.

0:42.9

What are you most greedy for?

0:47.4

Well, how do we define greed?

0:49.5

Let's define it as the desire for more, or rather, more than your fair share of something.

0:56.1

Oh, then power and control.

0:59.6

What about you?

1:00.8

I'm most greedy for knowledge.

1:05.9

You're doing that thing like when you're in a job interview and they ask you what's your

1:10.2

biggest weakness and you're like, I guess I just worked too hard.

1:15.7

So I've been thinking a lot about the limits of greed.

1:18.7

So what can you be greedy for and doesn't need to be something tangible?

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