686 | Fly Fishing in Chile with Mark Melnyk - Big Trout, Colin McKeown, The New Fly Fisher
Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Dave Stewart
4.7 • 530 Ratings
🗓️ 29 November 2024
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Mark Melnyk, executive producer at The New Fly Fisher, takes us fly fishing in Chile which is renowned for its large trout and breathtaking landscapes. Mark shares invaluable insights and tips on how to plan an unforgettable fishing trip to this beautiful South American destination. We also pay tribute to Colin McKeown, the beloved former host of The New Fly Fisher, whose legacy continues to inspire anglers worldwide.
Discover the allure of Chilean waters, learn about the fascinating cherry salmon that might just rival steelhead, and explore the legendary magic waters for giants. Whether you're an avid fly fisher or a curious traveler, this episode promises to enrich your understanding and passion for the sport. Tune in and let Mark Melnyk guide you through the secrets of catching big trout in Chile's pristine rivers.
Episode Chapters with Mark Melnyk on Fly Fishing in Chile
3:29 - Our chat started with the legacy of Colin McKeown, the founder of The New Fly Fisher television series. Colin, who recently passed away, had been struggling with health issues for several years. Mark shares his journey with him, starting 25 years ago when Colin pitched the idea for the educational fly fishing show. After layoffs in Canadian sports, Colin invited Mark to host episodes, demonstrating his generous and loyal nature.
12:21 - Mark discusses collaborating with travel partners. He explains his approach of identifying which lodges need marketing assistance, especially as younger generations take over lodge operations. Mark offers to help these lodges market their businesses by hosting episodes at their locations. The lodges are only required to provide time and resources, with no financial cost involved. This model allows the lodges to benefit from increased exposure while the show explores their regions for several days.
17:15 - We ask about his trip to Chile, specifically to a town called Balmaceda in Patagonia. Mark, along with Tom Rosenbauer, will target brown and rainbow trout in various water bodies. Mark highlights the unique fishing experience in Chile due to its low fishing pressure compared to other places, as well as the cultural and scenic aspects, such as the friendly locals and gauchos on horseback.
20:53 - Mark highlights the three outfits of Magic Waters Patagonia, namely: Magic Waters Patagonia Lodge, Magic Waters River of Dreams, and Patagonia Baker River Lodge.
24:26 - He walks us through traveling to Magic Waters Patagonia. Starting from Toronto, he takes a red-eye flight to San Diego, followed by a short layover, and then a connecting flight to Balmaceda. Upon arrival, the Magic Waters team picks them up, and it's about an hour's drive to the main lodge. Alternatively, reaching the Baker River Lodge takes about four hours through the mountains, offering views of General Carrera, Chile's largest lake, known for its exceptional fishing of big browns, rainbows, and cherry salmon.
26:57 - Mark describes the first day on the water, explaining they fish with large terrestrial flies like chubby chernobyls and damsel flies, which attract brown trout that leap dramatically to catch them. He also mentions the unique challenge of fishing in a very narrow but deep spring creek, where fish strike quickly, and the windy conditions of Patagonia.
29:02 - Mark will be hosting a trip to Chile on March 1st to 8th. He mentions that he still has spots available for this trip and plans to bring a cameraman to document the experience, showcasing what a hosted trip entails. This documentation aims to offer insight to those considering such trips, whether it's at Magic Waters or other destinations like Cuba or Belize.
30:45 - Mark gives some valuable tips in fly fishing in Chile. He emphasizes the importance of listening to guides who are familiar with the fish behavior on local rivers. He advises anglers to "fish big," using large flies and robust presentations, as the environment is competitive and predatory. He also suggests bringing extra rods due to the remote location, while noting that the guides provide ample flies and exceptional support, including meals and entertainment like traditional Chilean music.
34:29 - For more content and information on Magic Waters Patagonia, Mark recommends their YouTube channel @newflyfisher, featuring episodes from Magic Waters Patagonia Lodge, Baker River Lodge, and River of Dreams.
36:51 - Mark shares some tips on traveling for fishing trips. He emphasizes the importance of being prepared for unexpected travel issues, such as mechanical problems or weather delays, and advises travelers to stay calm and adaptable. He recommends keeping essential fishing gear like rods and reels in carry-on luggage to avoid issues if checked luggage is lost. Mark also suggests planning extra days around a trip to explore the local culture and environment, enhancing the travel experience.
40:40 - We get into the gear. Mark highlights the importance of bringing appropriate gear, such as floating lines, five and six weight rods for stream and lake fishing, and potentially a two-handed rod like a spey or switch rod for larger rivers with fast-moving water. He advises having reels with great drags due to the smart fish and strong currents.
43:53 - Mark mentions some other stuff and gear to bring for a fly fishing trip in Chile. He emphasizes the importance of layering, starting with a merino wool base layer for its moisture-wicking properties, followed by insulation layers like jogging pants and a synthetic puffy jacket. Additionally, he highlights the necessity of a waterproof shell and backpack to store extra layers, ensuring they stay dry.
Mark also discusses the intense sun exposure in Chile, advising the use of buffs, zinc sunscreen, and sun gloves to protect against sunburn, particularly under the chin and on the tops of hands.
49:38 - Mark describes a standout dish featuring abalone prepared by Chef Angela at the River of Dreams Patagonia. He had never tried abalone before, which is not commonly available in Canada. He found the dish to be extraordinary, with the abalone being tender and flavorful, complemented by fantastic sauces.
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/686
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| 0:00.0 | Today's guest started out as a rodeo producer and now produces one of the largest fly fishing |
| 0:06.6 | YouTube channels in the country. |
| 0:08.5 | His program travels all over the country and world giving you the best education and tips |
| 0:12.8 | on putting together great trips. |
| 0:14.7 | Today we're heading into Chile to find out how they find large trout and how you can do it |
| 0:19.7 | on the fly. |
| 0:20.7 | This is the wet fly swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing. How to find out how they find large trout and how you can do it on the fly. This is the wet fly swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the fish species we all love. How's it going? I'm Dave, host of the wetfly swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid. I grew up around a little fly shop |
| 0:38.3 | and have created one of the largest fly fishing podcasts in this country. I've also interviewed |
| 0:42.8 | more of the greatest fly anglers and fly fishing producers than just about anyone out there. |
| 0:48.2 | Mark Melnick, new fly fisher producer and the person who took over for Colum Ekewen after he passed away this year is going to share some tips on traveling and with a little bit of a focus on fishing chili and big trout. |
| 1:02.9 | You're going to hear about this story of Collin Ekewen who was diagnosed with terminal cancer over seven years ago and kept going strong until just recently this year. We're going to hear that big story. Plus, we're going to find out about cherry salmon and how they're actually, they might be better than steelhead and what the magic waters for giants are all about. Magic waters for giants. All right. Let's get into it. Here he is Mark Melnick from the new flyfisher.com. |
| 1:28.9 | How you doing, Mark? I'm great, man. Thanks for having me, David. I really appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for putting time aside today to touch base on this. We're going to be talking, we've got a lot to cover here today. We're going to be talking about the new fly fisher. We're going to be talking about a trip to Chile. I know you guys are traveling all around. And I, I mean, we're also going to talk about Colin McEwen because he passed away here this year. |
| 1:47.8 | We did a kind of a tribute episode. I had him on way back in episode 84 in 2019, and I was surprised. I didn't know. So I want to touch base on that and maybe just give people a kind of focus of where the new fly fisher is going and all that. |
| 2:01.5 | So yeah, but what's going on with you? |
| 2:03.1 | Where are you at right now and how's the fishing looking? |
| 2:05.4 | Fishing's been looking great. |
| 2:06.9 | We've got low water here. |
| 2:08.3 | I'm in central Ontario, about an hour and a bit north of Toronto. |
| 2:12.9 | And it's been a great season summer fishing for, you know, for warm water species. |
| 2:18.2 | And now that the weather's turned cold and the salmon have done their thing, the steelhead are trickling in now. And, and I actually got a, I have a shoot coming up, uh, next week sort of my home, my home water. So I'm really excited about that. Yeah, things are, things are great. It's the weather's been crazy, you know, like, uh, you know, everything, everything seems to be bumped a month to the right. So, um, you know, I don't, I don't mind warm water or warm weather fishing and you don't have to battle the cold and the snow and all that stuff. So, no, my Rotary Rainbow Treader are a lot of fun and the Great Lakes has them in sp them in spades yeah they do and we've been up there a few times fishing more of the south shore lake area with uh jeffles gay and rick custitch out there and it's been yeah it's been unbelievable we had one year i think the last year we were there we had some higher water but we still were able to find some fish which was was great. But yeah, maybe let's start with the new fly fisher. |
| 3:09.1 | Let's give an update. |
| 3:10.2 | You know, like I said, Colin, pass away. Maybe you could just start there with Colin. I, you know, I had him on the podcast. I didn't know him that well. Was this, I guess I've heard from some folks that this was not a new, like he's been struggling with some stuff right the last few years but maybe give us an update first on calling how all that |
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