As a Belize saltwater trip been on your bucket list but thought it was a bit out of your reach.

Did you know that you can DIY Belize easily and mix it up with a few guided days on your journey?

We're going to break down Belize today so you have a better shot at bonefish, tarpen, and permit on the fly.

This is the Wet Fly Swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the species we all love. How's it going? I'm Dave, host of the Wet Fly Swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid. I grew up around a little fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing podcast in this country.

I've also interviewed more of the greatest fly anglers and lodge owners than just about anyone out there.

Chris Waters and Mary Alice Hoppe are here from the iguana house to share their magical operation with you.

You're going to find out today how fishing the reef differs from other areas in saltwater.

You're going to find out what you need to think about as you approach the water, either for bones or permit.

And you're going to find out how to hold your rod correctly for success casting against wind today.

Plus, you're going to find out why fishing is just the start of our Belize journey on this podcast.

Let's find out how they do it.

Mary Alice Hoppe and Chris Waters from iguana house, belize.com.

So how are you guys doing?

Doing well, thanks for asking.

How are you doing?

I'm doing great.

I'm excited about this one because Belize has been on my radar for a long time. I think we're going to talk about a December trip that we're working together. Greg, my partner, and Tyler are going to be out there doing some really cool stuff with you. So we're going to talk about that and the trip itself, what it looks like. And I know there's a cool thing where people can do a little bit of DIY along with getting guided and all that. But before we jump into it, let's take it back to both of you. Maybe, Chris,

let's start with you. How did you get into fly fishing and all this? What's your first memory out there?

I think, you know, when I realized that putting on waiters was in my head in a way that like

nothing else was right until I was putting

waiters on. That's when I realized something changed in my life. I had a buddy Scotty barter out

from Washington State who had already been fishing for a lot of years and he'd come out to Colorado

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