She and her husband caught that thing. You know, you just, you can do the dimensional kind of thing there.

You know, we know how tall she was. I interacted with her personally. Her son was a very close friend of my son. So, okay, that's how I sort of got the connection to begin with. But, you know, you can, you take the picture and you say, okay, well, we know exactly how

tall she is, so we'll apply that to the length of the fish. And low and be old, yeah, everything

they assumed about that fish is probably true. And I think that's the biggest steel at that

that's ever been formally acknowledged.

Yeah. that's ever been formally acknowledged. Welcome to In The Bucket, the podcast that explores the culture of spayfishing in the Pacific Northwest,

a spectacular land of mountains and wild rivers where every cast has a story to tell.

I'm your host, Brian Niska.

Thank you for joining us. I'm super excited to bring you a special episode of our show today

with three highly regarded fisheries biologists in Brian Morrison, Bob Houton, and John McMillan.

Each of these guys also happens to be a passionate steelhead fly angler.

So I'm looking forward to talking fish and fishing. Let's get into it.

Right on, guys. Well, this is a show I'm really excited about. I've got three actual experts

for you guys today. I'm joined by Brian Morrison, John McMillan, and Bob Hootin. Brian, why

you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself?

Thanks, Brian.

I'm a fisheries biologist based out of Ontario.

I've worked as a fisheries biologist for about 25 years, primarily working on river and stream

ecology and salmonid ecology across the Ontario side of the Great Lakes and occasionally make some forays

out to the West Coast to play with Salmonids out there. Yeah, thanks, Brian. This is John McMillan.

And yeah, like Brian Morrison, you know, I'm a fish biologist, a research scientist. I've been,

I live up on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State, so basically on the

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