683: The Meaning of the Scopes Monkey Trial 100yrs Later with Chris Staron
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 August 2025
⏱️ 89 minutes
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Summary
New data shows the nations with the highest standards of living are seeing the sharpest declines in wellbeing, while people in poorer countries are reporting more happiness. What’s going on? David Brooks’ recent article looked at data from 142 countries, and he concludes that spirituality and social connection, not just wealth, are critical to human flourishing. In related news, since legalizing euthanasia in 2016 and expanding access to it, Canada has seen an alarming trend. Then, it’s been 100 years since the Scopes Monkey Trial. Phil talks to Chris Staron, creator of the Truce podcast, about what really happened at the trial and how fictional retellings of the event are still impacting American culture. Also this week—a fox with a footwear fetish.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:03 - Theme Song
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6:48 - Foxes Swiping Shoes?
13:15 - Why Are We So Hopeless?
30:40 - Canada is killing itself
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52:00 - Interview - Listen to Chris Staron’s Truce Podcast episode on the Scopes Monkey Trials! https://trucepodcast.com/the-scopes-monkey-trial-dayton-tennessee-william-jennings-bryan-clarence-darrow/
54:00 - Scopes Monkey Trials—Who Cares?
1:10:16 - How We Misremembered
1:18:27 - What’d the Trails Change?
1:28:46 - End Credits
Links from News Segment:
Foxes Swiping Shoes!
https://www.backpacker.com/news-and-events/news/fox-shoe-theft-grand-teton/
Why More People in the World Are Feeling Hopeful by Arthur Brooks:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/07/opinion/happiness-community-wealth.html
Less Religion, less babies!
https://www.newsweek.com/less-religion-less-babies-declining-birth-rate-2110254
Canada is Killing Itself:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/canada-euthanasia-demand-maid-policy/683562/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. New data shows the nations with the highest standards of living |
| 0:05.0 | are seeing the sharpest declines in well-being, while people in poorer countries are reporting |
| 0:10.0 | more happiness. So what's going on? David Brooks' recent article looked at data from 142 countries, |
| 0:16.4 | and he concludes that spirituality and social connection, not just wealth, are critical to human |
| 0:22.4 | flourishing. |
| 0:23.7 | In related news, since legalizing euthanasia in 2016 and expanding access to it, Canada |
| 0:30.1 | has seen a very disturbing trend. |
| 0:32.7 | Then it's been a hundred years since the Scopes Monkey trial. |
| 0:35.9 | Phil talks to Chris Staron, creator of the Truce podcast, |
| 0:39.2 | about what really happened at the trial and how fictional retellings of the event are still |
| 0:44.1 | impacting American culture today. Also this week, a fox with a footwear fetish. Before we get |
| 0:50.5 | started, we've got two new Holy Post media events coming up. First, Caitlin |
| 0:55.3 | Chess will be in Durham, North Carolina on Saturday, October 4th, with Sharon Hottie |
| 1:00.0 | Miller for an evening with the Holy Post. And then on Saturday, October 25th, the whole gang, |
| 1:06.1 | that's me, Phil, Caitlin, and Esau will be doing a live Holy Post podcast recording in the Chicago suburbs. |
| 1:13.5 | Tickets for both of these events are now available at holypost.com. |
| 1:17.7 | So be sure to check those out and get your tickets because space is limited. |
| 1:21.9 | Here is episode 683. |
| 1:24.7 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. |
| 1:27.0 | I'm Phil Vizher. I'm here with, oh, Caitlin is back again. Two weeks in a row. Two weeks in a row. Caitlin's in the studio with me and Sky Jatani. Hi, Sky. Hi, Phil. Hi, Caitlin. I did you shave it now, right? You're right there. Did you? Oh, yeah, you should probably should say hi to Caitlin now. That's that now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Did you? |
| 1:45.0 | Oh yeah, you should probably should say hi to Caitlin now. That's going to be a new thing. Yeah, you have to say, and then I have to say hi to everybody and then Caitlin has to say hi to everybody. You have to say hi, Sky. It'll be like the end of the Walton's if any of you are old enough to... Not even a little bit. None of us are old enough. |
| 1:41.0 | Okay, that's good. |
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