682: Why We Still Need the Institutional Church with Brad Edwards
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2025
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
The Holy Post crew is suspicious of a new study that finds MAGA supporters score higher in authoritarianism, social dominance, and malevolent personality traits, while liberals score higher in compassion and empathy. Church planter, Brad Edwards, says many of us hold beliefs, language, and values that sabotage our ability to benefit from participation in a church. He talks to Kaitlyn about his new book, “The Reason for Church,” and why our anti-institutional instincts are self-defeating. Also this week, the Secretary of Defense reposted comments from his pastor that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The Catholic Church says ICE detainees are being denied their religious rights. And robo-bunnies of death.
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18:53 - Hegseth Opposes Women’s Suffrage?
22:42 - Priests Alligator Alcatraz
28:22 - Conservative/Liberal Empathy Study
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51:11 - Interview
53:48 - Where’s the Church at?
1:01:33 - Institution vs Therapy Speak
1:14:00 - Compassion as Moral Framework
1:26:15 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. Today we're suspicious of a new study that finds MAGA supporters |
| 0:05.3 | score higher in authoritarianism, social dominance, and malevolent personality traits, |
| 0:11.3 | while liberals score higher in compassion and empathy. Then church planter Brad Edwards |
| 0:16.6 | says many of us hold beliefs, language, and values that sabotage our ability to benefit from |
| 0:21.8 | participation in a church. He talks to Caitlin about his new book, The Reason for Church, |
| 0:27.3 | and why our anti-institutional instincts may be self-defeating. Also this week, the Secretary of Defense |
| 0:33.7 | reposted comments from his pastor saying that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. |
| 0:38.0 | The Catholic Church says ICE detainees are being denied their religious rights and robobunnies |
| 0:43.6 | of death. |
| 0:44.9 | Hey, don't forget about Holy Post Plus where all of our best content is available. |
| 0:48.8 | We're talking about exclusive podcasts like getting schooled and the Skypod, bonus interviews |
| 0:53.6 | with your favorite guests, special |
| 0:55.4 | video series like Michael Birds between Christ and Caesar, and my new book, The World Born |
| 1:00.8 | and You, which is being released one chapter per month only on Holy Post Plus. And that's just |
| 1:06.2 | scratching the surface of what you'll get. If you like the Holy Post podcast, then you need to |
| 1:10.3 | realize it's just the appetizer. It's just the front porch of a huge mansion of Orthodox pro-neighbor |
| 1:16.4 | Christian content. It's like the trailer before the matinee double feature that is Holy Post |
| 1:21.5 | Plus. So head over to holypost.com and learn how you can join Holy Post Plus today. Here is episode 682. |
| 1:30.8 | Hey there. Welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. I'm here with Sky Jitani. Hi, Sky. Hi, Phil. |
| 1:34.9 | Hi. We're back from Okabogi. I'm sure we'll talk about that a little bit. Y'all know every year |
| 1:39.7 | we go to Okabojee, which is in Northwest Iowa as a Bible conference. And then we come back. |
| 1:44.9 | And we usually mention it. |
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