684: Dobson Died, Cracker Barrel Cancelled, & Flipping Christian Politics with James Talarico

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

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🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, died this week. Critics are saying Dobson was the “godfather of child abuse,” while his fans are saying he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of evangelicalism. Who’s right? Phil, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss Dobson’s legacy and why the controversial conservative is secretly responsible for the creation of VeggieTales. Rising political social media star and Texas state representative, James Talarico, joins Skye to talk about his faith and what makes his frequent references to Christianity in his progressive politics different from the approach of Christian nationalists. Also this week—Cracker Barrel apologizes for changing its logo after being accused of stripping away America’s heritage and culture.

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0:00 - Show Starts

2:03 - Theme Song

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4:48 - Cracker Barrel Logo Gone Woke?

23:36 - James Dobson Passed Away

38:45 - No Dobson Means No Veggietales?

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57:36 - Interview

1:01:15 - Telerico’s Faith Background

1:09:54 - Does the Democrat Party Align with Christianity?

1:20:37 - Flipping Tables

1:28:25 - Christianity and Welcoming the Stranger

1:35:30 - End Credits

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Cracker Barrel logo change!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/26/cracker-barrel-logo-apology

Dobson’s Passing

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/jim-dobson-a-giant-of-the-faith.html

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Holy Post. James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, died this week.
0:06.2	Critics are saying Dobson was the godfather of child abuse, while his fans are saying he belongs
0:11.2	on the Mount Rushmore of evangelicalism. Who's right? Today, Phil, Mike Erie, and I discuss
0:17.1	Dobson's legacy and why the controversial conservative is secretly responsible for the
0:21.8	creation of Veggie Tales. Then rising political social media star and Texas state representative
0:27.9	James Talariko joins me to talk about his faith and what makes his frequent references
0:32.9	to Christianity in his progressive politics different from the approach of Christian nationalists.
0:39.1	Also this week, Cracker Barrel apologizes for changing its logo after being accused of
0:44.2	stripping away America's heritage and culture. Here is episode 684.
0:50.3	Hey there. Welcome back to the show. This is the Holy Post Podcast. I'm here with Sky Jutani in studio with me in Wheaton, Illinois. Hi, Sky. Hi, Phil. And we don't have Caitlin because she ran back to Durham. She spent three weeks in Wheaton and said, enough. Enough of that. I'm going back to Durham. She's gone forever. Oh, well. No, I'm just kidding. She'll be back next week. And we're here
1:13.9	with Mike Erie from, um, are you in Franklin? Franklin, Tennessee. Franklin, Tennessee. Mike
1:19.7	Erie. Hi. How are you, Mike? Hi, Phil. Hi, Sky. Hi. You need to try to match my energy
1:27.4	with every word. I'm just, it's like you go from Caitlin to Mike. It's like varsity to freshman. Oh. Like football is what we got here. No, it's fine. You could totally knock her down. You could totally knock her down. If I could catch her, that's true. If you were in tackle practice. That's that's fair yeah she'd be doomed she would be
1:46.4	doomed and now it's time for the theme song what's the news that you like the most who's your favorite
1:54.7	podcast host if it's breakfast get your toast it's's Skyfield, Caitlin and the Holy Post.
2:02.4	Skyfield, Caitlin in the Holy Post.
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