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Welcome to another exciting episode of dogma debate. I am your host Michael Regilio and this is going to be a particularly fun episode for you guys because it is going to be a spirited debate between two sides that kind of agree.

I was at a documentary film about the rise of Christian nationalism in America and I brought a friend. His name is Matthew Robinson and

We watched the film and it made a rather strong case and driving home Matthew said that he doesn't think Donald Trump is a fascist

and he finds it offensive that people call him a fascist. Now Matthew is a friend of mine and he's a he's a political guy he's a smart

guy but on this particular subject I think he's just dead wrong and I said why don't you

come on to the show and defend this position of yours so let's start by

welcoming Matthew Matthew welcome welcome to the show thank you for having me Michael and if it's any

consolation I think you're being hyperbolic and you're dead wrong as well so

Oh that's no consolation at all in fact it enrages me and makes me want to argue with you so

I'm going to dive right into it so the debate we're going to have today is,

is Donald Trump a fascist?

And like any debate, let's start off with definitions, Matthew.

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