I'm Neil de Gras Tyson.

Hey I'm Adam Carolla.

Hi, my name is Payne Gillette.

Not only listening, I'm the guest.

I'm of Penn and Teller, and I am the fourth listener.

And I am the fourth listener.

And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

It's dogma debate with your host Michael Regilio.

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And welcome to another edition of Dogma Debate. I'm so excited about this one because

today's guest is Lou Perez. Lou is the author of a book called That Joke Isn't Funny anymore. And he would know because Lou is so

funny and he is, he self-identifies as a Libertarian and we'll let him talk about that at his will, but he would know about funny because he is so funny.

Will, welcome to the show. Well, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah, I saw you. I came

across you initially you were debating Michael Ian Black about does his woken is killing comedy and you're doing that at the

comedy cellar in New York which is one of my all-time favorite clubs so I watched

the debate and and then I went and I checked out your stuff and you're regular on Fox News or so it would seem because I saw you on Gutfeld, I saw you on Brian Kilmead's show talking, and so I went and I checked out some of your videos and, you know, as a comedian and somebody who likes politics, I mean mean the ultimate is to get somebody to laugh

despite themselves man you know I mean you speak a truth and no matter who you are you can't

help yourself but and the what is it called?

Stop making me defend Donald Trump video.

I mean, it's just nobody hates Trump more than me.

And yet I laughed out loud so hard it is so so so funny and you're

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