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Hi, my name is Payne Gillette.

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Welcome to another exciting episode of Dogma Debate.

This episode is going to be really cool because I was scrolling through the

Tik-Toc lives recently and I came across at-will for the Lord. And he's got a really interesting take in my

opinion as I grew up Catholic will just so you know. So, but you were on Tik-Tock saying that you can't sin. Is that right that

is that Saints can't sin and I'm just curious what exactly you're talking about there

where that's coming from and and and what you mean guess, because I've not heard that one.

You can't, that you can't sin.

So Will, welcome to the show.

Thanks for, thanks for coming on.

And what do you mean?

Sinners can't sin. that's so interesting to me.

Yeah, it's, it sounds like heresy,

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