I think it is a good thing that we've got officers who are stopping murders and stopping crimes and punishing people and that we live in a relatively just society but they are looking for anything to support their story that you're guilty.

Welcome to the art of charm. I'm Jordan Harbinger. I'm here with producer Jason de Philipo on this episode. We're talking my friend Corbin Payne. This guy's pretty funny.

He's a calm the sous chef SUV chef and he posts funny stuff from his court cases and funny and insightful posts on Facebook. He's a defense attorney.

Of course he has some crazy clients. Literally some of them. We're going to talk about probable cause search and seizure. How to interact with the police and will explore or should you be helpful and so how helpful.

We'll discover how to get the police to see your side of the story and we'll teach you how we're using soft skills like what we teach here at AOC and on the show to make sure you stay on the right side of the law. Pretty interesting episode. A little bit of legal stuff going on here. A lot of people think I don't really need this or I'm not sure what I need this. This is good stuff to have under your belt and just to make sure that you know it when the time comes because it's going to be pretty tough in the moment to remember some of this. So the takeaways here should be funny interesting and

definitely useful for the one or two times in your life. And if you have kids, they should listen to this as well because we've chopped down some of these stories that Corbin has into some hopefully very useful practical takeaways. So enjoy this episode with Corbin pain. Corbin, thanks for coming on the show man. I'm very glad to be here. Thanks for having me. I came across your well, I guess I could say your work, which was you added me on Facebook and you've got that law life posts. That is correct. They're pretty funny. I mean, they get a lot of interactions.

Some are a little bit like a sad maybe, but the rest of them are pretty funny. Is it fair to say that it's funny stuff that happens in court or just funny stuff your clients do. It's like America's funniest home videos, but no videos and it's all people going to jail or not going to jail.

So you have people hauled in there on like the worst day of their lives or on a tragic day of their lives. You see some really amazing moments happen right in front of you. And because they're also stressed and they're nervous, they can be overwhelmed by what they're in front of. There are some really funny things that come out of people's mouths.

Like talking about the human aspect of what happens in our court system, it can be very easy to get lost in talk of justice or punishment or what have you.

But at the end of the day, the courtroom is packed full of human beings interacting with each other. One of the bailiffs walked in the room and he was dressed up nice, just really, really nice. And I said, sir, you look fine today.

He just kind of looked at me and said, Mr. Payne, I'm dressed fancy so that if I do something heroic, I'm going to look good for the papers, not because I can't get your ass.

Probably my favorite one is where there's a woman on the stand. I don't remember all the details what was going on, but the prosecutor asked her, did you stab your sister?

And I believe the defendant probably had some mental or intellectual disabilities because she kind of looked at the prosecutor and said, what sister?

The one I live with? No, I didn't stab her. And there's this kind of long moment in the courtroom where everyone is looking at each other going, wait, what?

And that really just happened. And the prosecutor looks at her blinks heavily and says, have you stabbed any of your other sisters? And she just kind of looks shocked and put on the spot and finally says, well, yeah, maybe a little bit.

Wow, I mean, maybe a little bit. Yeah, but look, it wasn't a bad stab, you know, she's alive. Yeah, I stabbed her 13 times. I didn't go Lizzy Borden on her or anything.

There was one that really caught my eye that was, I guess like this, you know, neo-Nazi guy or something is getting sentenced to jail.

And he walks by the African-American bailiff and says, stay white. And the bailiff says something like, don't drop the soap right in the judges. Like I didn't hear that, you know?

The judge, I think looked up sharply and was like, oh boy, I'm going to really go after this guy. But the bailiff, who's a pretty cool guy, just goes, you know, scoreboard dude, you're going to jail. I'm not.

Yeah, I'm going to Carl's junior for lunch. What are you going to have? The best part was the bailiff is this big hulking dude. And that defendant was just a really small kind of shrimpy white supremacist.

Yeah, he'll do fine and jail. I'm sure a small scrawny guy with major swastika tattoos. Right. Yeah. So I had messaged you and asked something about what search and seizure or I can't even remember.

I think your Uber driver maybe got hit and the person who hit them was obviously drunk and drove off. Right. That's right. She got slammed into. She walked up to him to see if he was okay. And he said, get away from me. I'll kill you.

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