67 | Relentless (Part 2): Paul Holes & the Golden State Killer Live From CrimeCon
Best Case Worst Case
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🗓️ 11 May 2018
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Live from CrimeCon Paul Holes discusses #behindpolicelines details about his relentless pursuit of the Golden State Killer over decades
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| 0:00.0 | So it's huge insight for the homicide investigators who up to that point were just chasing a ghost. |
| 0:11.0 | Traits of a sexual sadist, we know that these women suffered. |
| 0:17.0 | Enditements of very famous soccer players and the jury did not believe the woman. |
| 0:31.0 | Hello and welcome to Best Case Worst Case. This is your host Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI profiler and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. |
| 0:45.0 | And with me today in the studio is... |
| 0:47.0 | Hi everybody, it's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor. How are you Jim? |
| 0:51.0 | I'm great. I'm really happy to be here again live at CrimeCon. |
| 1:01.0 | With our very special guest, I'm Paul Holes, retired co-case detective from Contra Coss County DA's office. |
| 1:14.0 | I have a quick question. Can you guys come back to LA with us and do this all the time? |
| 1:20.0 | We love this. So we've been talking to detective Paul Holes about a very interesting co-case that he worked. |
| 1:29.0 | And this case has now jumped from jurisdiction up north in California down to southern California. |
| 1:36.0 | What did you think when you found out that this offender was actually physically with the N.A. scientifically tied to southern California now? |
| 1:47.0 | And there's an escalation. |
| 1:49.0 | Very much this was an escalation. That was an evolution where you see this guy that is doing the sexual assaults in northern California. |
| 1:59.0 | And towards the end of his northern California series, the female victims were starting to say he's not getting what he needs. |
| 2:07.0 | So there was a sense... |
| 2:09.0 | Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean by that? What did they mean by that? |
| 2:11.0 | So what they were meaning is, is during the sexual assault they were sensing that this guy just wasn't getting satisfied. |
| 2:18.0 | And they thought that he wanted more out of it. And then when he shows up in southern California and he's making the statement, |
| 2:25.0 | I'm going to kill him. I'm going to kill him this time in the very first attack down there. In his mind, he is recognizing he needs to do more. |
| 2:33.0 | He is escalating psychologically. And we saw that. Now we had tied the DNA between northern California and southern California. Now we know he did escalate to homicide. |
| 2:44.0 | Right. And so when we look at this from a profiling perspective or a behavioral perspective, typically we see this kind of escalation happen in serial rape cases when the offender is almost caught. |
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