It's time for episode 651 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay, recorded Wednesday, April 8th, 2026.

Clockwise, four people podcast that brings May showers.

My name is Dan Mooran, and I am joined, as always, across the internet by my good friend, my pal, the only micah sergeant how you doing today micah

just picking flowers here dan and they're all pretty they're all gorgeous yeah i it's just unfortunate

because they all bring they all bring showers and i yeah maybe i guess it should have been may flowers

i you know what i mixed my metaphors everything's. We know what we're doing here. Look, we've done 650 of these, okay? Cut us some slack. Well, this is, of course, the technology podcast where we invite on two fantastic guests to discuss four tech topics in just 30 minutes. To my left this week, it is writer,

photographer, late-nighter, Jeff Carlson. Welcome back, Jeff. Hey, thanks for having me back on.

And to my left, business unicorn, relay FM, switch on community manager and host of Conduit

on this year podcast network. It's Kathy Campbell. Hello, Kathy. Hi, Micah.

All right. We just got 30 minutes, four topics. Let's get moving. I want to know how do you

keep your email under control. Are you an abundant archiver? A dastardly deleter. A fiendish folder filer? Do you have some

other tricky technology techniques to share with us? Jeff, how do you tame your email?

I like how you put together this idea of email and under control. I don't understand it, but it's

really nice and aspirational.

After many, many years, early years of like trying to file things in different folders and be organized, I just couldn't keep up with the flood.

So basically, anything that I'm done with just goes into a big archive and anything else either hangs out in my inbox or stays unread until I, you know, do an occasional scan and purge.

So my techniques are not ideal, but, um, I've kind of given myself grace to say, you know what?

A lot of this stuff is just crap.

I'm not going to deal with.

And if it's that important, someone will reach out again.

It's very, it's very like self-centered, but it kind of works.

Yeah.

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