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🗓️ 17 August 2017
⏱️ 57 minutes
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0:00.0 | I've been saying for years that Putin was our problem, but eventually it will be everybody's problem, |
0:05.2 | because that's what I read in the books about other dictators. |
0:15.6 | Welcome to the Art of Charm. I'm Jordan Harbinger and I'm here with producer Jason DeFilippo. |
0:20.8 | On this episode we'll be talking to my friend Gary Kasparov. He is a Russian chess |
0:25.2 | grandmaster, former world chess champion, he's a writer, a political activist, |
0:30.0 | and many people consider him to be the greatest chess player of all time. And now he's fighting |
0:35.4 | another battle in a different game against Vladimir Putin. And one thing I try to do in this interview, |
0:41.2 | I hope you all agree, I try to give Gary plenty of space to answer questions and explain the |
0:45.2 | situation in Russia and explain his own mindsets and his ways of thinking. And far too many |
0:50.1 | interviewers and journalists seem obsessed with showing other people how smart they are, |
0:54.8 | how much they know about this situation. I've tried very very hard not to do that here. I hope it |
0:58.9 | shows and makes for a better discussion. And if you're not familiar with the Russian situation of |
1:03.4 | a Soviet Union situation, I still think you'll enjoy the heck out of this interview. Gary is brilliant, |
1:08.4 | he's a great thinker, he's a very high performer, of course. There are so many interesting stories |
1:12.4 | in this one as well. And if you're a specialist in this area, I hope you'll find this discussion |
1:17.0 | interesting as I've tried to hit on different angles about what makes Gary such a unique individual, |
1:21.3 | both in Russian politics and in general and holds a special place on the world stage, especially |
1:27.0 | right now. His books are winter is coming and deep thinking and today we're going to learn a lot |
1:32.2 | about what it takes to become a chess champion, what can be applied or what can't be applied from |
1:36.7 | chess to politics and the situation that we're dealing with with authoritarian governments today in |
1:42.4 | Russia and around the world. So enjoy this episode as much as we did here with Gary Kasparov. |
1:51.0 | You know, Gary, it's funny in the beginning of this interview, you had mentioned, |
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