Today we've got a great two-and-one special where we have two guests for the price of one.

One is one of the world's top experts on TikTok shop, and the other has sold hundreds of million dollars online and is even an accomplished DJ who plays at music festivals.

How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think.

One to three. How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of the series' sellers podcast by Helium 10.

I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show that's a completely BS-free, unscripted and unrehearsed, organic conversation about serious strategies or serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. And continuing in the videos that I recorded while I was in Dubai, I got to meet up with a couple friends who, one of them I've met in person in Pakistan before, and I had no idea who's going to be at this conference. I was like, wait a minute, is that Bal all over there?

And then the other one is somebody who I've known online for more time than I've even worked at Helium 10, probably over seven years.

And this is the first time I got to meet him in person.

Both have very interesting stories and completely different strategies.

One is going to be talking all about TikTok shop and the other one about how he has really

leveled up over the years and probably at one point was on his way to being a 10 figure seller.

And so without further ado, let's go ahead and take it away with Bilal and Ali Gray.

All right.

Finally, guys, I am here meeting somebody. I have known online for, I don't know how many years. And we keep missing each other at conference and stuff. But, Ollie, it's great to meet you here in person. Nice to meet you. I think it's like 10 years, man. It's been a long time. So I'm happy to meet you. I just now am finding out a little bit about your backstory. But let's go ahead and talk about it. You were born and raised in London? Yes, correct. I'm from a Turkish background, but I was born and raised in London. I was just in UK a couple weeks ago. I drove almost 1,000 miles in one week. I went to, drove to Wales, I went, you know,

Southampton. I was going to all the Stonehenge for the first time. It was great, but you haven't

lived in London in a while, right? When did you start living like on the road, I guess?

Like seven, eight years ago, I was done with London and, you know, when you reach a certain tax

bracket as well, you know, your taxes are just putting money in the bin, right? So when you can,

especially when your money can buy you more things in other countries, when you can get more

for your money, why wouldn't you travel and explore?

And I've done that in 70 countries.

I worked from 70 countries and then I realized that's not sustainable.

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