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🗓️ 22 June 2017
⏱️ 57 minutes
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0:00.0 | That's when I realized that the structure of a magic trick, that the art of deception, |
0:04.4 | if I could educate other people, if other people knew magic the way I knew magic, |
0:08.6 | then that would put them in a position where they would have that low grade alarm ready to go off at all times. |
0:20.9 | Welcome to the Art of Charm. I'm Jordan Harbinger. I'm here with producer Jason DeFilippo. |
0:25.4 | On this episode of AOC, we'll be talking to my friend Brian Grushwood. This guy is incredible. He used |
0:31.4 | to be on Scam School, one of the first podcasts ever, ever. They were in there when we started. |
0:37.0 | Brian Grushwood has spent the last 20 years performing on stage on TV, on the internet, of course, |
0:41.6 | and entertaining and teaching people how to harness the deceptive and self-deceptive skills of |
0:46.7 | scientists, spies, criminals, and con artists. But he's a great guy. Just take my word for it. |
0:51.4 | Of course, whether we're aware of it or not, these factors that we discuss today are the ones that |
0:56.0 | shape our perceptions of the world. And if you don't learn them, they can be used to manipulate you. |
1:00.4 | So, on this episode, we'll discover why being engaging isn't a gift, it's a practice. We'll |
1:05.5 | explore something called fixed action patterns and how they can help us get others to do what we |
1:10.0 | want them to do. Only for good things, of course, we'll learn how to control a conversation by |
1:14.2 | asking the right questions and we'll uncover the best way to convince someone to help us by making |
1:20.1 | it their idea. All this and more trickiness with Brian Grushwood here on AOC. Enjoy. |
1:28.7 | This interview only took I think nine years to set up, so we're good, right? We're good on that. |
1:34.8 | That's about right. Yeah. I mean, it might even be 10, but I think back then, I thought |
1:39.6 | I can never get somebody who's already on the internet to be on this show. That's like impossible. |
1:43.8 | Meanwhile, you guys are tearing it up. That's the idea, man, but we're glad to have you here, man. |
1:47.5 | You've spent the last 20 years performing, first of all, yeah, the internet, but TV, I've seen you, |
1:53.3 | I assume you do some stage shows or I know you do some stage shows. You've got this cool blend of |
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