What's up, everybody. Welcome to the Knowledge and Mileage Podcast. We are at the FitCon event here, and this has been a long time coming.

I've been trying to hold this guy down for a long time now, but he's traveling, I'm traveling. We both come to gather. We didn't know if it's going to happen today, but it did. Thank you ever so much, four times Mr. Olympia. Jay Cutler. Always good to see you, man. It's been a long journey for both of us. It has been a long journey. Remember the first time we met was in Australia at the Fidexpo. The FidX? It's called the Fylex. Fylex, that's it. Fylex. But it might have been a different name back then. Maybe it was Fidex. But no, no, it was Fylex. You were there back in 2001. I think you were there with Dexter. Dexter, that's right. Muscle Tech, I think. With Danny, with nutrition systems. It's funny, the Fylex is this weekend, you know that.

Right now, it's going on right now.

Really?

Yeah.

So it's been... I was there last year. It's been 18 years. I was here in 2001. Yeah, 2001. It was just before I got second at the Olympia that year. 18 years ago, man. That has been a long time. Yeah, we toured. I remember we did like a bit of a quad pose down. We've got a quad shot together. I kind of showed you up a little bit probably. Maybe at that time, but probably not a few months later. No, definitely not. Definitely not. I thought I had good legs until I looked down and I couldn't figure out which was your rectus for Morris in your kneecap. I was like, holy shit we're young and uh aspiring at that point

now we've transitioned into much greater things and you know it's awesome to speak with you and

run into you here and there and our you know short conversations because obviously crowds around and

i remember that i mean i think it was last year i ran into you outside fitexpopo LA and we're early morning out there you get I don't know if you were getting coffee

you're walking yeah I was getting a coffee I had to keep a distance from you though because

you had your little dogs yeah that's right you know I have those things about little dogs

was that a year that was last year wow it goes high that fast I know exactly and when you have that conversation

like last year it's like damn it's been a year already and then another year it just happens man

but we still both look amazing still um trying to do bigger and better things man always there to

evolve man all right so anyway we're going to cover a few things

today. But one of the things I wanted to talk about is your reign as Mr. Olympia to begin with.

You know, obviously, I went to every single one of those Mr. Olympias, you know, watching you

come through and then just, you know, become that dark

horse that come second place, and then just chasing Ronnie for so many years, but then you took

the title, and then you lost the title, but then you took the title back. So what was the best

win for you? Was it taking that title from Ronnie,

or was it regaining it after losing it to Dexter? You know what? I think the regaining it

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