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62: The Trillion-Dollar Space Race: Musk (Hare) vs. Bezos (Tortoise). Richard Smith compares the space race between Elon Musk's SpaceX ("the hare") and Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin ("the tortoise"). Blue Origin operates under the cautious motto Gradatim Ferociter

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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The Trillion-Dollar Space Race: Musk (Hare) vs. Bezos (Tortoise). Richard Smith compares the space race between Elon Musk's SpaceX ("the hare") and Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin ("the tortoise"). Blue Origin operates under the cautious motto Gradatim Ferociter, funded by Bezos's personal wealth, aiming to move heavy industry off Earth. SpaceX is driven by Musk's "existential" goal to make humanity interplanetary, operating with urgency. SpaceX ensures independence by funding its ambitious projects, including Starship, through the revenue generated by Starlink.



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0:00.0

This is CBS I on the world.

0:05.1

I'm John Batchel.

0:06.2

I welcome Richard Smith, who is writing for the motley fool that is investment.

0:13.9

However, he's an international lawyer who's practiced in some of the hottest spots on the planet right now, Moscow and Keefe and Washington, D.C.

0:24.1

Come to him because of an essay, he's published a fetching essay, the tortoise and the hare,

0:30.4

otherwise known as the tortoise, Bezos, the hare, Musk, and the race too, well, it's not quite

0:36.8

clear where they're racing.

0:38.3

Musk would have it to be Mars.

0:40.5

I believe the moon is up first stop.

0:43.1

However, the question has been in front of us for some time.

0:47.7

Bezos has Blue Origin, building the New Glen Rocket.

0:51.8

Musk has SpaceX, building a lot of different things, but one of them is Starlink that

0:57.2

pays for the efforts that he has at Boca Chica for super heavy for Falcon 9, certainly for Starship.

1:05.8

Are they in a contest with each other?

1:08.2

That is part of the joy of Richard's essay.

1:11.1

We assume they are, but at the same time, they're going in different paths, and they've

1:16.9

chosen different paces.

1:19.0

Therefore, Richard, a very good evening to you.

1:21.0

Thank you for this.

1:21.8

This is wonderful.

1:23.0

You write of the book about this race, but you're outside of it and you're looking in to the facts in the matter.

1:31.8

Let's establish right away, Blue Origin and SpaceX.

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