62: Nuclear Proliferation Concerns Regarding Small Modular Reactors and Weapons Testing. Henry Sokolski raises proliferation concerns about Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) using High-Assay Low-Enriched Uranium (HALEU) fuel (20% enriched). Declassified cables fr
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🗓️ 8 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my colleague Henry Sikolsky of the Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center. |
| 0:12.1 | We're looking at issues to do with nuclear weapons. One of the issues is always plutonium. Where is it? Who's got it? Who wants it? What are they doing with it? |
| 0:21.9 | Plutonium is poison, but it's also a ready-made bomb once you have the rest of the materials assembled. |
| 0:29.8 | The plutonium most concerning to us right now is in the U.S. arsenal. It's in the Russian arsenal. |
| 0:36.7 | It's in the Chinese arsenal, It's in the Chinese arsenal, |
| 0:38.9 | Pakistan's arsenal. That plutonium is the center of the bomb. That's what blows up. |
| 0:46.2 | It needs to be updated constantly, Henry teaches me. And you look at your arsenal always to make |
| 0:53.7 | sure it's not deteriorating. |
| 0:55.8 | Is that testing? |
| 0:57.4 | The reason this matters is that the President of the United States, most recently has said that the U.S. |
| 1:03.5 | needs to conduct nuclear weapons testing because our adversaries, Russia is named China, Pakistan, and North Korea are named, are testing. |
| 1:15.6 | What does testing mean? Henry's taught me that articulation here is critical. Henry, testing. It can mean this, |
| 1:23.7 | it can mean that. Please help me remember. Well, there are non-critical tests where you |
| 1:31.1 | make sure that everything but the fissile material in plutonium or highly rich uranium |
| 1:38.2 | doesn't begin to fission to produce a perceptible explosion. You know, maybe a pound or two of yield. |
| 1:48.8 | That's non-critical testing. |
| 1:51.7 | And what you're doing there is making sure that the high explosive hasn't deteriorated, |
| 1:59.4 | HDX or RDX or whatever you're using. |
| 2:03.6 | You're checking to see that the wiring hasn't, you know, eroded and oxidized and corroded, that it's functional. |
| 2:16.4 | And that allows you to do maintenance of your fleet, if you will, of weapons. |
| 2:25.3 | Stockpile stewardship does not require having a full yield explosion. |
| 2:31.7 | If you want to know what the precise yield will be and what the reliability of |
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