From Relay, this is Upgrade episode 615.

Today's show is brought to you by Century FitBod, Keeper, and ExpressVPN.

My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snell.

Hi, Jason. Hello, Mike Hurley. It's good to be here again. As always. As always. As always. Until next week when you're not here. That's true. Next week, I'm not going to be away. And so you're going to have a guest to fill in, which I'm most excited about. Because I love listening to the show and I'm not on it. I've asked Stephen Hackett to fill in.

Perfect.

So that way we can maintain relay co-founder continuity.

It's very important.

I couldn't ask for anybody better.

And he's not on any tech podcast anymore, is he?

That's very true.

He doesn't do any of those.

I can't think of one.

There isn't one.

I have a snow talk question for you.

It comes from Darren who says, I just watched the video of Jason's new door lock on his review

that you spoke about a few weeks ago, and I couldn't help but notice the color of his front door.

Always peeping. Always peeping those pixels, aren't you? I have to ask, Jason, was it deliberate

that you made your door Tardis Blue?

I'm watching Doctor Who for the first time, and every time I see that shade of blue in the world now,

I can't help but think of the famous police box.

Darren, it was deliberate.

Oh, my God. It was. It's literally, literally was deliberate. Oh, my God.

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