From Relay, this is Upgrade, episode 614.

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My name is Mike Hurley, and I'm joined by Jason Snell.

Hi, Jason. Hi, Mike. How are you? I'm good. It's a big money day today. Apple earnings. We're going to talk about that later on, but I have to start off, as we always do, with a Snell talk question. An anonymous, anonymous question asker wrote in and said, assuming that the next Apple CEO transition is another 15 years from now, do you think

you will still be podcasting to cover it?

Oh, interesting.

And we've only been doing this podcast for, what, 11 years?

Yeah.

So, um, on one level, I want to say yes, because I want to, you know, I want us all to be

here and alive and

healthy and doing podcasts. This is like if this had been 10, I would have said, I would have said

that that's my plan. 15. I always, so at least, you know, the conversation in the U.S.

always was like 65 was retirement age. And I always said, I can't even imagine doing that. And that's 10 years from now. So 15 is 70 for me. That is a long, that is, that is, we're talking, we're talking 2040 21 that seems like an impossible time period

impossible future time so i think what my answer to this question is this which is i imagine that

as my uh career goes along here some of the work that I do is going to fall off

because it's just not going to make sense anymore.

Yep.

They're not going to want to pay me or I don't want to do it or whatever.

And that will just kind of, some of it will fade away, some of it will stay.

And I hope that one of the last things to fade away would be upgrade, actually.

Oh.

Upgrade in six colors, really.

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