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Jen Rubin's Green Room

61: The Center Must Hold with Malcolm Turnbull and Yair Zivan

Jen Rubin's Green Room

Jen Rubin's Green Room

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.8578 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Jen, Malcolm and Yair explores the concept of centrism and the need for political moderation in the face of populism and extremism. 
The guests discuss their book, 'The Center Must Hold,' which brings together voices from around the world to advocate for centrism. They emphasize the importance of shared values, compromise, and humility in politics. They also discuss the role of institutions, such as compulsory voting and preferential voting, in promoting centrism. 
Touching on the challenges of media polarization and the need for fact-based journalism. They highlight the value of national service and bridging social capital in fostering unity and understanding.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Jennifer Rubin, and this is Jennifer Rubin's green room.

0:14.3

So happy to have you back.

0:16.4

Where has the last couple of weeks left us, other than depressed, demoralized, scared?

0:24.6

Listen, things are not well on the Democratic side of the election.

0:29.4

We've had a president who performed not just abysmally, but really failed to respond to the

0:37.2

concern, the legitimate concern that people raised

0:40.4

afterwards. And that, of course, has been, for me at least, more troubling than the debate

0:46.6

performance itself. For whatever reason, he and his team have dug in. Rather than admit that the president is 82 years old,

0:58.5

and he doesn't keep the schedule, a 40-year-old does, but nevertheless, he remains one of our best

1:04.8

presidents and on his worst possible day could run circles around Donald Trump,

1:10.6

instead of doing that, instead of leveling

1:12.4

with people, instead of acknowledging some physical limitations, the deny, deny, deny has,

1:20.4

I think had the opposite effect. And worse, not allowing him to get out there and do the kinds of events that would give people greater

1:30.8

confidence has become a real problem. He should be doing town halls. He should be doing more

1:36.8

interviews. He should be doing very long press conferences. And the nagging sense that many people

1:42.7

have is, why isn't he doing this?

1:45.9

Is it because he can't?

1:48.0

Now, I want to separate two things.

1:51.0

I think you can be a very good president, as he has been, put together an excellent team,

1:58.3

make good decisions, insist upon the best information. You can do all that.

2:03.7

You can run a White House and, frankly, run a country. And at the same time, not be on your toes

2:11.4

verbally all of the time, at times lose your train of thought, at times show your age.

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