Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole Show. I just interviewed my friends, Mark Groves and Kylie McBeth, who are a married couple. And you might know Mark because he is the founder of Create the Love. He's also the host of the Mark Groves podcast. He is a human connection specialist and he and Kylie his wife and the mama of his baby just wrote this

beautiful book together called Liberated Love, released cod dependent patterns and

create the love you desire.

And we talked all about codependency.

And Kiley, you might know her on Insta as Being is Beautiful and she shares daily guidance and teachings on relationships and

spirituality and embodied liberation. She's a certified health coach and the host of the

Journey Home Podcast. So together what I love about how they've written

this book is they're basically sharing their experience from sort of a more conditioned love and breaking up it's not a spoiler

alert because they're talking about it in interviews and sort of coming back to and

how really curing their codependency had everything to do with their ability to create,

liberated of.

So I hope that you enjoy this interview with Mark and Kai as much as I enjoyed

interview my friends. This is the Terry Cole show and as you might have guessed I'm your host Terry Cole

for over two decades I've been a licensed psychotherapist,

love and boundaries expert,

and I'm also the founder of the Rail of Revolution and Boundary Boot Camp.

On this show I'll bring you simple strategies based on

practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations

from my time on the front lines in the fascinating world of entertainment, empowerment, and mental health.

Now let's get going with today's episode. Oh my God, you guys, welcome to the Cherry Cole show, Mark and Kai. I'm so happy you're here.

We're so happy to be here.

So stoked.

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