6. Nathan Myhrvold: “I Am Interested in Lots of Things, and That's Actually a Bad Strategy”
People I (Mostly) Admire
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🗓️ 7 February 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Problems that are hard are usually hard because of the set of perspectives and tools that have been used to try to solve them. |
| 0:15.0 | So you have to always ask, am I bringing something new to this problem? And if you're not, then you should |
| 0:24.3 | say, well, maybe I should either try to get a different perspective or a different tool or a different |
| 0:29.8 | thing, or maybe give it a rest and work on something that I can get a little more progress with. |
| 0:38.0 | So there are people who know a lot about a few narrow topics. |
| 0:42.7 | And then there are other people who know a little bit about just about everything. |
| 0:46.5 | And then there's Nathan Mirvald who knows everything about everything. |
| 0:52.3 | Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt. |
| 0:57.3 | I first met Nathan maybe a decade ago. |
| 1:00.3 | And from the very first time I met him, I was just blown away by his intellect and his enthusiasm. |
| 1:07.6 | And I've never asked him a question where he didn't give me an answer that was just |
| 1:13.2 | profound and detailed and knowledgeable. And what I love about talking to Nathan is not only that I |
| 1:20.3 | learn a lot from him, but somehow he makes me feel like everything in the world is interesting. |
| 1:29.7 | Nathan Mirvald, physicist, inventor, cookbook author, archaeologist, tech mogul, |
| 1:36.4 | scholar of penguin poop and dinosaur sex. |
| 1:38.7 | Let's just start at the beginning. |
| 1:40.2 | You graduated from high school when you were 14 years old. |
| 1:42.9 | You skipped four grades. |
| 1:45.8 | Were you a likable kid or were you the most annoying kid that ever existed? You know, it's very difficult for a teenager |
| 1:52.8 | to have that perspective on themselves famously. And, you know, I was never the weirdest kid in class |
| 2:00.0 | or the most misfit kid. |
| 2:01.6 | So in the pecking order, you were always at least one from the bottom with someone who could bully? |
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