It's not like some white woman could have come along to you and been like, so, Elise, like, I'm starting this group for you.

This is what you need.

Go away. I'm fine. You know me.

You're listening to Feminist Don't Wear Pink, the podcast, based on the book, Feminist Don't Wear Pink and Other Lies, a collection of writing by 52 women on what feminism means to them.

I'm Scarlett Curtis, I'm a writer, activist, journalist and very, very proud feminist.

I'm also the curator of this book and the presenter of the podcast.

During this series, I'm going to be talking to a few of the amazing contributors who've written

in our book to find out how they found their feminism and some of the lives that they've

been told about what it means to be a woman.

My guest today is filmmaker and activist Elise Fox.

I met Elise when I was living in New York and she showed me a short film she'd made about her mental health journey.

A week later, Elise founded Sad Girls Club.

Sad Girls Club is an online platform created to bring together girls with mental illnesses with the goal of removing the negative stigma that surrounds mental health conversations,

providing mental health services to girls who don't have access to therapy and treatment

and creating an in real life judgment-free community for young women so they know they're not alone.

I've been hanging out with

Sad Girls Club for the past year and watched it grow into the most incredible group for powerful

and extraordinary underrepresented girls to find community and help each other. Hi, Elise. Hi, Scarlett.

Nice to see you in London. Lovely to see you always. My ultimate life goal is to make you move here.

Just FYI.

You are like convincing me.

I'm like at 80% right now.

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