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Gatekeepers coming to me and going, look at our shiny gates.

Would you like to come through our gates?

And I'm like, no, and it's fine.

We've just got around the back. And they're like, but they're really good gates. Come in around our gates. So it's good. So it's not really gates. It's just more a big open back. And they're like, look at the gates, but the gates. You're listening to Feminist Don't Wear Pink, the podcast, based on the gates. But the gates.

You're listening to Feminist Don't Wear Pink, the podcast, based on the book,

Feminist Don't Wear Pink and Other Lies, a collection of writing by 52 women on what feminism means to them. I'm Scarlett Curtis. I'm a writer, activist, journalist and very, very proud feminist.

I'm also the curator of this book and the presenter of the podcast.

During this series, I'm going to be talking to a few of the amazing contributors who've written in our book

to find out how they found their feminism and some of the lives that they've been told about what it means to be a woman.

Today I am joined by writer, activist, and founder of Galdon magazine Live Little.

A comedian, writer and host of the groundbreaking guilty feminist podcast, Deborah Francis White.

And activist and co-founder of the pink protest, Grace Campbell.

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