Hello and welcome to episode 587 of the Connected podcast here on Relay.

This episode is brought to you by Centrian e-CAM.

My name is Mike and I am joined by the keynote chairman Federico Vatici.

Hi, Federico. Hello, Mike.

We're an open-faced sandwich this week. Okay. Where I'm the meat on top of you, the chairman

bread, because there is just one chairman on the show this week because Stephen has actually lost

his voice. So he would be essentially useless to us today. Yeah, that's how the French do it,

the open sandwich, I think. Exactly. So we're about an open sandwich today. Yeah, not great.

I actually, we do a membership show called Backstage, which is available to all relay members.

And Stephen, we did it today together and it was terrible. The man sounds horrible.

He just sounds horrible.

I feel bad for him.

You don't want to hear Stephen right now.

I don't, no.

And I don't think anybody else does really if I'm being completely honest with you.

Do you know that at the time we record next week, hoping that he is back on the show, he will be 40.

That's rough, right?

That's rough.

I forget that he's that much older than me and you, you know?

Right, because we're all kind of used to the idea that is, you know, for the show is like 57 or something.

But then when you put it in real terms, it's like, oh, he's actually so much older.

Me and you're like, even in real terms, he's just like way older.

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