Hello and welcome to Connected episode 586.

I am your annual chairman, Stephen Hackett, and I am joined by Mike.

Hello, I am the meat inside of this chairman sandwich. And I have, I am the meat. And I have the pleasure of introducing keynote chairman Federico Vitec. Hi, Federico. Hello. Hello. How are you?

Will I always be the meat in this sandwich? No, because sometimes I'll go first, right? Yeah, we rotate. So then I'll be like a hot dog on top of the chairman bun. We live in a modern society. You can be the meat. You can be the part of a vegan sandwich, if you want. Oh, I can be the corn inside of this sandwich. You can be, you can be the tuna, you can be the chickpeas. You get to choose. I am the impossible meat inside of this chairman's sandwich. Yes, yes. But you are in between the bread, Mike. That's right. The chairman bread. The gluten-free bread. Oh, my half of the same. One is gluten-free. Are you both gluten-free? No, I'm not.

I was going to say,

gluten rich.

Yeah.

He's swimming in the stuff.

Gluten free bread, impossible meat, terrible sandwich.

Just start again.

No?

Just have a different thing.

Yes.

How are we supposed to do a podcast today? I'm not even sure. I don't know.

We should thank our sponsors Century and Squarespace. Thank you. Thank you for listening. It's a new year. New year? Same us. You know? Clearly. But no, some things some things gentlemen they they are above space and time

and one of those things is follow up follow up frederico can you two things here one i think we had a

question that's not in here like some background of the teach scale, but then when we graded the year in the annies, like a month ago, you suggested

some changes to the Tici scale, which Kate, the maker of the original scale, has updated. So you

want to go over this with us? Yeah.

Kate Rodin, I know you didn't actually discuss Federico Stichie Scale suggestion

in a lot of detail in episode 583,

but I wanted to see if I could draw a quokka.

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