Hey everyone, Benkuma Radio, episode number 575. Apologies for slightly ropier sound quality today,

but I am recording this sort of on the fly and it was a conversation I had with a street

pana athlete yes this guy wow I mean this guy is just incredible. Check out his Instagram Street Panner. You might know him, his

name's Jack Downer. He is a Super Bowl World Panner Champion, London Panner Champion, and it's just insane, like what that guy can do with the football

with his feet is just amazing.

Anyway, he reached out to me through a mutual contact, Steve if you're listening, legend.

And he asked me to help with his performance,

look at his nutrition, advise him on gym work

and generally make him a better all-round athlete.

So I said, hey dude, let's do that, let's chat.

And I think the chat's really useful.

And I think it's really useful in its simplicity.

Jack gave me permission to post this.

Firstly, because it's a great open chat.

Secondly, he wants to help young footballers or anyone listening from his community and I want people

to understand how simple the coaching process can be.

So I essentially take a very open free-flowing approach to having a chat with Jack.

I say to him, look, how do you want to improve your performance?

Let's delve into what you're currently doing,

how you sleep in, tell me what your routines are like.

And I just create a really simple set of steps

that we can go away and do for the next two weeks and then he can go and

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