573 | Cognitive Behavioral Tools for FI
ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast
Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc
4.8 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 17 November 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Chusify. Today in the show, we have a really interesting episode. |
| 0:04.6 | Jasper Lee is a PhD in clinical psychology and an assistant professor at Harvard Medical School |
| 0:10.1 | and a staff psychologist at Massachusetts General Hospital. He's an NIH-funded researcher |
| 0:15.4 | and has a private practice where, among other things, he works with folks on the psychological |
| 0:20.5 | components of |
| 0:21.4 | Phi. He reached out to me and basically said, hey, Brad, you constantly talk about the intersection |
| 0:27.6 | of psychology in Phi, and I wondered if you'd ever want to license clinical psychologist on |
| 0:32.7 | as a guest. So naturally, I jumped on this and thought it would be an absolutely fantastic episode because, |
| 0:39.1 | as I'd say often here at the podcast, FI is, in my estimation, 90 to 95 percent psychological, |
| 0:46.2 | and the actual nuts and bolts of money are maybe five or 10 percent of this. |
| 0:50.4 | So Jasper came on. |
| 0:52.2 | He had a wealth of knowledge. |
| 0:53.4 | We talk about a ton of things, including |
| 0:55.9 | specifically problem solving and using two different tools, cognitive restructuring and behavioral |
| 1:01.3 | activation that I found fascinating and incredibly actionable. This episode is chock full of actionable |
| 1:08.6 | tidbits. So I'm going to leave it there. I know you're going to |
| 1:11.3 | enjoy this. And with that, welcome to choose that fI. Before we get started, I keep this podcast |
| 1:23.6 | entirely ad-free for two reasons. First, this is a five podcast and I don't want to promote |
| 1:28.4 | products that I don't want you to buy in the first place. And second, I really like the clean |
| 1:33.2 | listening experience of a show where you don't have to fast forward ads. To keep it ad-free, |
| 1:38.1 | all I ask of you as a listener is the next time you open a travel rewards credit card, |
| 1:42.2 | go to choosefi.com slash cards and with that |
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