You're listening to the Keebuckle to CEO podcast, episode 57.

Today's guest is a self-professed mama bear and true champion for small businesses

and someone I admire immensely.

Meet Natalie Frank Hayes, an entrepreneur, mobilization marketer, community builder, and

neuroscience nerd.

As co-founder of the Rising Tide Society and head of community at Honeybook,

Natalie leads over 77,000 creatives and small business owners while fostering a spirit of community

over competition around the world. We chat about why the lessons we learn at our very first

or entry-level jobs should not be overlooked,

how to love the people we serve more than the craft we do, her best tips for building strong,

fast-growing communities, and why competition isn't a bad thing if you pursue it the right way.

There's honestly too much goodness in this episode for me to tease in this intro. So set aside

the space to really soak in Natalie's wisdom and let's push play.

Welcome to the Cubicle to CEO podcast. I'm your host, Ellen.

Each week on this podcast, learn from the best and brightest in business who have paved their way to the top of the corporate and entrepreneurial worlds,

as well as those new to the CEO game, like myself, who are working in the trenches to build our empires.

Listen in as these leaders impart their wisdom, inspiration,

and encouragement to empower you to become the CEO of your dream business and life.

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