Hi, I am Jeffrey Wernick, and I'm pleased to have my guest here with me,

Stephen Malinu. If I mispronounce that, please correct me.

That's fine.

Okay, I did good, okay, good. First I'd like to apologize for us starting actually 10 minutes late.

It's on me, entirely on me, they were ready, I had tech issues, it's totally on me, sorry.

The stuff happens and we apologize for being on late.

But here we are.

I was a listener early on to free domain. I characterize myself as an

anarcho capitalist and there were not many anarcho-capitalist podcasters.

There still aren't many, but I remember that

Stephan was, I guess he might have had the most widely listened to

Podcast among people who might have been self-described as anico-capitalists

And so I listened to some of the episodes.

I wasn't necessarily a faithful listen to any podcast or many podcasts at all, but I did occasionally listen when I found myself with nothing better to do.

No offense, Stephen, but I prefer reading and I was also busy working but I did find your podcast interesting and probably

listen to it more than most podcasts that I listened to which was not many. So I understand the topic that you want to discuss

today is upon peaceful parenting. I also describe what you do is philosophy.

I think sometimes you describe it as moral philosophy, but you know I would I would I would

like to start up questioning you is how do you define morality and moral philosophy?

I think many people consider themselves moral philosophy and many many people who describe

themselves as moral philosophers other people would describe as

either immoral or any moral philosophers so the question is who controls the

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