Well, all righty, good morning everybody.

Hope you're doing well.

Having an interesting back and forth, free domain. Locals.

I hope you would join the community.

Having an interesting back and forth regarding the nature of principles.

Ooh the good stuff, all the good juicy moral stuff.

And he writes, Manuel writes, the nature of principles, after debating

Stefan and some from this community about what consequentialism actually is, I

got the impression that there's a big misconception about what principles actually are.

So let's go through the logic. about what

principles actually are.

I'm annoyed at the beginning.

That doesn't mean anything.

I'm just telling you what my emotional experience

this doesn't mean you're objectively annoying or anything like that.

But I'm annoyed at this beginning because if you want to debate consequentialism, this is sort of my

feeling around it, if you want to debate consequentialism, fantastic. But if you want to

debate consequentialism and you haven't got agreement on what consequentialism is, that's

kind of on you.

Right, so if you know anything about debate,

what you need to do is get agreement

that everyone's using the same terms to mean the same thing.

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