565: What Our Food Habits Get Wrong And The New Food Pyramid Gets Right With John Klar
Wise Traditions
Weston A. Price Foundation
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🗓️ 9 February 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
The US Dept of Agriculture's new dietary guidelines surprised the public when they revealed a completely flipped food pyramid. Meat, eggs, and butter appear to be back! But what difference will this make in our dietary habits? Can the guidelines weaken the appeal of ultra-processed foods? And what does the fine print in the guidelines reveal?
John Klar, the author of Small Farm Republic and MAHA advocate, goes over the implications of this historic announcement and the alliance between the USDA and Health and Human Services agencies. He discusses the pluses and the minuses of the new pyramid, whether raw milk will ever be legalized on a federal level, and why millennials and Gen Zers' food choices are giving him hope for the future.
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| 0:00.0 | you can get pre-packaged chicken nuggets for our public schools, but not a whole chicken. |
| 0:05.0 | And the food pyramid isn't going to change that. We have to make some statutory changes. |
| 0:09.5 | But it is revolutionary because we are revolting against a captured food system controlled by |
| 0:17.5 | captured regulatory agencies, as Bobby Kennedy told us, and many of us have known for |
| 0:23.1 | decades. You know, we raised our children on nourishing traditions. We raised our children on |
| 0:28.6 | healthy foods. And so it's common sense. And, you know, there's a common theme, I'm sure you've |
| 0:32.8 | heard it, within the Mahal movement, is many of us were very, very sick. And a huge part of our turnaround |
| 0:40.2 | in our recovery was healthy food. And so sometimes you don't know that Twinkies are bad for you |
| 0:45.4 | until you eat nothing but Twinkies. And then you go, gee, what could be wrong? And so it's common |
| 0:50.4 | sense. |
| 0:56.4 | From the Weston A. Price Foundation, welcome to the Wise Traditions podcast for wise traditions |
| 1:02.1 | in food, farming, and the healing arts. |
| 1:04.4 | We are your source for scientific knowledge and traditional wisdom to help you achieve optimal health. |
| 1:13.5 | And now here is our host and producer Hilda Labrata Gore. |
| 1:19.1 | Hey, Hilda here. |
| 1:21.5 | The U.S. Department of Agriculture recently released its new dietary guidelines, |
| 1:26.0 | which revealed a completely flipped food pyramid. |
| 1:29.4 | The emphasis on real foods like meat, butter, fruits, and vegetables appears to be in stark |
| 1:35.6 | contrast to the former food pyramid. But is it all that we've hoped for? What are the chances |
| 1:41.6 | that this pyramid will actually improve public health? |
| 1:45.4 | This is episode 565, and our guest today is John Clare. |
| 1:49.7 | John is the author of Small Farm Republic, and he is a Maha movement activist. |
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