Everyone, Benkuma Radio, this podcast is long overdue because we get questions about this all the time, not so much as kind of, I don't think it's as much of a UK trend it's definitely a big US

trend a lot of people talking about in the US and kind of paired with this conversation is the keto diet which we've talked a lot before

but you do see people talking about in the UK obviously a lot of people in the UK and around the world follow people of influence that are saying and doing things in America. So we are going to talk about

the carnivore, the carnivore diet today and as ever Tom joins me to have a chat about it.

All right, Tom.

You're right, Ben?

Yeah, this is a good one.

Um, I can't remember when I first heard about it. It was probably the same way that most people heard about it.

It'll have been on a podcast and it'll either been Joe Rogin or it'll have been Jordan Peterson or his daughter, Michaela, who was like, I think

Michaela is probably the person that really introduced it to me.

Well, I found out about it through her content, but obviously she's not the originator. But yeah, it's a, it's an interesting one and I don't think that people are expecting me to say what I'm going to.

But yeah, we'll see.

Have you, what familiarity do you have with it as a dietary concept?

I think my general familiarity is the same as everyone else is.

Eat loads of meat and if you get into the nuances, don't eat things like fruit because there's bad things in it and there's lectins and there's all sorts of stuff that will jump out and get you.

But otherwise there's some things in fruit and vegetables that are bad, eat lots of meat, get into a fat burning state because we're avoiding

loads of carbs and the world will be right as rain.

Don't worry about like animals, don't worry about maybe your carbon footprint is a whole conversation around that just like eat

loads of meat. Yeah that's pretty much it. I mean obviously I'm not an ecologist I can't really talk to the

environmental thing but yeah I, this is one of the big things.

The first thing that you have to do whenever you're talking about the

Carnibor Diet is to actually,

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