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Okay. So today, I'm going to talk about two people that are the most responsible about magic getting created.

So I'm talking up, of course, about Richard Garfield, the creator of magic, and Peter Ackison, who founded,

one of the people that founded Wizards of the Coast. So, the reason I bring this up is last week,

so there are a bunch of Grand Prix going on this summer that we are calling birthday grandprees,

because we are celebrating the 25th

anniversary of magic and because the three of us cannot go to all the grandprees we recorded a

video um in fact we recorded a video with us together and this individually i'm going to talk about

the making of the video as well um but first i want to do a little prep to talk a little bit about Peter and Richard.

But I was inspired because the chance...

I've seen Richard recently, obviously.

He worked on Dominiari, but Peter and I haven't seen each other in, I don't know, 10-plus years.

So I want to talk a little bit about sort of Richard and Peter, and then we'll talk about

seeing them again.

Okay, so, back in 19, I think it was 91, Peter Ackison, so Peter was working at Boeing,

but Peter was a gamer, loved gaming, in particular, really, really loved role-playing games.

And so Peter, Peter had a dream. Peter wanted to start a game company.

So along with four other people, they started Wizards of the Coast. So when

Wizards of the Coast started, it was a little teeny tiny game company. Now, I'm going to, I'm mostly

hitting on Peter and Richard today. So if you want to know more about Wizards of the Coast, I did a

whole podcast on Wizards of the Coast. So you can go listen to that.

But anyway, so Peter founded the company.

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