from relay this is upgrade episode number 553 for march the third 2025 i of course am your host jason

snell this episode is brought to you by squarespace fitbod google gemini and delete me of course, am your host, Jason Snell. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace, FitBod, Google Gemini, and Delete Me.

Of course, as you know, we are now firmly in Mike Hurley-Paternity leave territory.

That's right, but we still got to do an episode, and I'm on vacation.

So, it is my great pleasure to introduce my special guest for this episode of Upgrade.

Mike Hurley.

It's what a pleasure to be here.

I've always loved this show, Jason, and I'm just so happy that you gave me the call now that Mike's out to bring me in.

Isn't it weird being on a podcast that you listen to so long?

It's particularly weird to be the guest in this environment.

It's very strange to me.

This is an episode out of time.

We recorded this episode before my paternity leave.

Actually, on my birthday, in case people...

Yes, happy birthday.

It's January in the past, but it's March in the future. Why are we doing this, Jason? Why is this happening? Can you explain? I have a vacation scheduled and it would normally, and it's Wednesday to Wednesday. So it's really impossible to record upgrade in a not an out of time episode. And normally I would have said, Mike, you take that one, but you can't take it either.

And so I had the thought, well, if we're going to do an episode out of time, why don't we do,

you and I do an episode out of time and then just drop it in.

So a little bonus mic for everybody.

You love it.

If there are people that are missing me, you know, although I've really only been gone like two weeks.

Yeah.

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