In this episode we continue my conversation with Alina Tugend. Get excited because this is tiny leaps. Big changes. big change. Welcome to another episode of Tiny Leaps, Big Changes, where I share simple strategies

you can use to get more out of your life. My name is Greg Klunis and in this episode we jump into part two

of my conversation with Alina Tugin. Now if you don't remember or if you didn't listen to part one, I highly recommend you go back and listen to part one.

Alina is an author and a journalist.

She's the author of the book Better By Mistake, The Unexpected Benefits of Being Wrong.

She's also written for numerous publications. the U.S expected benefits of being wrong.

She's also written for numerous publications including The Times,

The Atlantic, O, the Oprah magazine, Family Circle, and Inc magazine.

So she is just a wealth of wisdom when it comes to this topic. She spent a lot of time

doing the research so that we can learn from it and in this conversation we are diving deep

into the contents of the book and the lessons she in this conversation with Alina Tugend.

This idea of the way that we talk to our kids

and the language we use, what we praise them for affecting

the way that they view mistakes,

how can we as adults start using that to ourselves, this idea of self-talk and what

we sort of praise ourselves for?

Okay, so first of all, I just want to make it clear clear I don't love mistakes. You know people

ask me so how do you feel about mistakes now? I don't love them. I still get annoyed with

myself while I'll cry about them you know it's not as if, oh, that was a great mistake. But what I have learned, first of all, is some mistakes just happen.

Kipos happen. You can have yourself, I've learned that yourself and four editors read it and something

will slip through.

So what I've learned is too often we do believe we should be perfect and there is I know you know nobody's perfect is a

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