I'm pulling my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

Okay, so the last two podcasts, I've been talking about Dominaria. And when we left, I was talking

about the plight of historic. So the quick recap is, we had made historic to capture the flavor

of history.

As I explained last time, there were a lot of reasons why legendary as a theme unto itself

has some gaps in it and adding artifacts to it really sort of filled it in and helped

make it work.

Anyway, there was a lot of people didn't quite get it for a while.

We had to figure out how to do it.

There were some mechanical reasons.

Anyway, there are all sorts of issues.

And I was given an ultimatum by Bill, Bill Rose, that had VP,

that I think of six weeks to fix it or it was leaving the set.

And so I spent a lot of time I worked with Kelly Diggs and

Mark Winters, who were the two people in the creative team. Kelly did the story and Mark was doing

the art. And I, we iterated and iterated and I showed cards around the building and got

gathered feedback. And I convinced all the other people, R&D, that was skeptical that this

was the right call.

And finally, the last thing I had to do was pitch it to Bill.

And the response I got was, uh, no.

And I was like, no.

And Bill said, he goes, you know, I think we should just try to replace it. And so I was given

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