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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

54: Wartime Los Angeles's Sleepy Lagoon Murder & Zoot Suit Riots w/ Eduardo Pagán

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, Education, History

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2017

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Two events in early 1940s L.A. grabbed newspaper headlines almost back to back- The murder of José Díaz and following trial of 22 boys, and the race riots between American sailors and zoot-suit wearing Mexican-American kids in downtown Los Angeles. Eduardo Obregón Pagán is a professor at Arizona State University and a co-host of PBS's History Detectives, and he talks with me about his book, "Murder at the Sleepy Lagoon: Zoot Suits, Race, and Riot in Wartime L.A.". More about the author here: https://sustainability-innovation.asu.edu/person/eduardo-pagan/ Become a Most Notorious patron: https://www.patreon.com/mostnotorious Most Notorious website: https://www.mostnotorious.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.0

Welcome to the most notorious podcast, I'm Eric Rivenes.

0:51.1

I'm so glad to be talking to Eduardo Pagon, a professor of history at Arizona State University.

0:59.5

He's also a co-host of History Detectives on PBS and worked on the PBS series American

1:06.1

Experience.

1:07.1

He is the author of Murder at the Sleepy Lagoon, Zoot Suites, Race and Riot in War Time LA,

1:15.5

an absolutely fascinating book.

1:18.2

A great pleasure to have you here with me.

1:20.7

Thank you.

1:21.7

Oh, you're very welcome.

1:23.0

I'm happy to talk to you.

1:25.2

So what drove your interest in this notorious series of events, culminating in what is commonly

1:32.1

known as the Zoot Suit riots?

1:34.8

What motivated you to write about them?

1:38.0

Well, so I guess I should start by a little bit of just my own background growing up in

1:47.2

Arizona.

1:49.8

Particularly during the time when Luis Valdez's play, Zoot Suit Riot came out and then it

1:56.5

became a movie after that point.

1:58.1

I think that was really my first introduction to this time and this phenomenon as well.

2:06.9

And I always grew up kind of interested in this particular moment for those of us who

2:13.7

grew up in the 1970s, 1980s.

2:16.9

Luis Valdez's play and subsequent movie was really foundational in constructing kind

2:24.4

of the history of Mexican Americans in the United States in the post-war period or during

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