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Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

53: Self-Confessed Serial Killer Carl Panzram w/ John Borowski - A True Crime History Podcast

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, Education, History

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2017

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Carl Panzram was a self-confessed serial killer and rapist, who admitted in his autobiography to over 20 murders just before his execution in 1930. My guest, John Borowski, director of the documentary "Carl Panzram: The Spirit of Hatred and Vengeance" talks about this man, who many consider one of most evil people to ever walk the earth, and how childhood traumas and prison torture might have contributed in transforming him into a monster. Become a Most Notorious patron: https://www.patreon.com/mostnotorious Most Notorious on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MostNotorious1 Most Notorious website: https://www.mostnotorious.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Af verdict his way across the United States, according to his own confessions.

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This is an episode about Karl Pan's ram, the criminal the killer.

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It's about the torture he inflicted on others, but also the torture inflicted on him.

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Did the penal system turn him into what he became?

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Was he mentally ill?

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Does the lack of evidence in most of what he confessed to make him guilty to anything?

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Or is he solely to blame for the trail of terror and death that he claimed responsibility for?

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These are some of the questions discussed in our episode today.

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I'm very glad to have John Browski here with me. He is an award-winning documentary filmmaker.

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Some of the titles of his films are Albert Fish in Sin He Found Salvation,

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H.H. Holmes, America's first serial killer and serial killer culture. I've asked him to talk about his 2013 film,

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Carl Panzeram, The Spirit of Hatred Inventions, and he's been gracious enough to agree.

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Thanks for doing this, John.

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Thanks for having me on. I'm really excited to talk about one of our almost notorious.

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Yes.

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Absolutely. As a minisoten, I first heard about this guy years ago as he unfortunately spent his

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formative years here. Before we get into that, I want to ask you about how you first heard about

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Panzeram and what motivated you to tell his story on screen.

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Yeah, I'm not sure exactly when I first heard about Panzeram. When I was

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creating my films on Albert Fish and H.H. Holmes, of course I had really begun to research into

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