In this is tiny leaps,

I sit down with Clay Cockrell from online counseling.com.

Get excited because this is tiny leaps.

Big changes. Big changes. Big.

Big. leaps. Big changes where I share simple strategies you can use to get more out of your life.

My name is Greg Klunis and today on the show I have an incredibly action-driven action-oriented resource-packed episode with Clay Cockrell.

Now Clay, it has been a practicing psychotherapist for about 25 years now. He has done work in Manhattan in New Jersey

where he lives currently. He's done work online while he traveled the world and

he's had the pleasure of speaking with and working with people all over the world on all of the different things that they are struggling with.

He's the founder of online counseling.com, which is a directory to help you find a counselor or a therapist online.

He's also the creator of Walk and Talk Therapy, a unique approach to therapy where you take a walk with your therapist and get out of the office.

He's also the host of the podcast Finding Therapy where he walks you through step by step,

how to find the support that you need.

In today's episode, we break all of this down.

We look at why there is a big stigma around therapy.

We look at why it's so difficult to find a good therapist,

someone that fits your needs. We look at a process for evaluating your therapist.

When you finally do find someone and you're in the office with

them how do you actually make sure it's the right fit how do you actually make sure

that this is the person you want to spill your guts out to he's gonna break that

down for us and we look at why taking a walk with your therapist might actually be a good idea.

Now this episode has been broken down into two parts so be sure after you're done with this

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