Hello, multiamery folks and friends. Let's go to Spain together. That's right, Orit Krug and I are hosting a

somatic retreat, especially for polyamorous folks that's going to be in beautiful northern Spain

from September 22nd to the 25th, 2025. We're going to be spending four days together in a beautiful

natural setting, and Orit and I are going to guide you through somatic practices that can help shift long-held patterns and help you develop some powerful tools for navigating non-monogamy with more ease and confidence.

We handle all the details so that you can be fully present. Your accommodations are taken care of. You don't have to clean or cook. All your meals are taken care of. We really want people to feel as cared for as possible. You're welcome to come solo or to bring a partner or to bring all of your partners. Everybody is welcome. We also offer sliding scale pricing, and if

cost is a concern for you, please don't let that stop you from applying. We're happy to explore

options that work for you and for your financial situation. So we already have people signing up

for this one, which is nuts. We do have limited spots. So if you're interested, go to

multi-amory.com slash retreat. To apply today, mention the Multiamary podcast when you apply. Again,

that's multi-amry.com slash retreat. And I hope that I can see you in Spain.

Money is emotional. And so being able to talk more frankly about it is i still believe very

important but you do have to be careful with those conversations because that shit's implanted

so deep in us to feel whatever kind of shame or expectations or something.

And also to realize that the amount of money someone makes is not the whole story either.

You know, when Dedeker and I met, we both were not making very much money.

And I also had quite a bit of debt from having not made money for quite a while

while living in an expensive city of LA.

And so then even later, as I started to make more money, still I was having to put a lot

of that toward paying down that debt versus someone who might have been making less than me

but didn't have any debt.

There's a lot of other factors that go on there as well.

So it's not just so simple as how much you're making, but being able to be more

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